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Original VS Midquel - The Lion King by NostalgicChills Original VS Midquel - The Lion King by NostalgicChills
A collaborative piece between myself and :iconwritersimbake777:
i drew the picture and she wrote the description.


How many of us (myself included) grew up with – and loved -- The Lion King? The beautiful African rhythms. The awesome scenery. THE WONDERFUL ARRAY OF CHARACTERS – HEROES, VILLAINS AND SIDEKICKS (BOTH GOOD AND BAD)!! Whether we were four or 40 (during 1994, when the first movie was released); we’ve all come to know the story. And, God knows; many of us have been inspired enough by its majesty; to create EPIC works of art!!

Then, we were gifted a return trip to Disney’s Africa; with the release of The Lion King 2: Simba’s Pride. Sure, the movie still isn’t considered ‘canon’ by many loyal fans. And yes; the animation (the colour-scheme seemed rather faded/diluted, to me – also, many characters seemed to be out of sync, compared to their original selves); but it was still passable, as a Disney sequel. As controversial as it was, Simba’s Pride was still heaps better, than the rather eccentric (and to some, childish) The Lion King 1 1/2 [or 3, depending on where you live] could ever hope to be!

The issue is not with Timon’s family (his mother and Uncle Max – also, the family’s meerkat colony). That really wouldn’t have bugged too many people! For one thing; it allowed viewers to see how the little meerkat came to accept the ‘Hakuna Matata’ philosophy that we were introduced to, during the first movie. (He was lonely – even in the company of others. And, being all alone, in the world, he needed something to believe in! So he adopted the carefree, ‘who gives a hoot’ philosophy – with mixed results!)

The problem doesn’t even really lie in how he met his warthog companion, Pumbaa! (God knows, both Timon and Pumbaa were outcasts – love them or hate them!) For better or for worse, they were added – much like the hyena trio – for some much-needed ‘comedy relief’! This is OK, by many die-hard fans, today.

No. The issues lie with the ridiculous story-line – supposedly told from Timon and Pumbaa’s rather off-the-wall point of view. For many loyal LK fans, it just didn’t make any sense!

For one thing; Timon meets a laughing Rafiki, while on his travels – who tells him about ‘Hakuna Matata’ (a philosophy the wizened mandrill-shaman wouldn’t even think of adopting – as it preaches a life of ease and carelessness. And Rafiki would never condone such things!)

Then too, the guys seem to have followed a young, pre-exiled Simba through his presentation (during which Mufasa’s subjects were brought to their knees by an attack of flatulence, courtesy of Pumbaa – and not by their respect for the royal family); then high-tailed it, when Simba – then a power-hungry Scar -- sang about what it would be like, to be king!

Moreover, as Simba kept Mum about how he came to be exiled; how would his jungle-companions know that he had been involved in that awful wildebeest stampede that killed his father – then sent him into a self-imposed exile, courtesy of his scheming uncle? Impossible!
But the things that really bug many loyal fans are:

That disgusting snail-slurping contest, between Timon and an adolescent Simba. What was that all about? It was definitely inspired by Fear Factor and some of the Survivor series, that’s for sure! (It was the grossest gross-out I’d seen in a LONG time!! Also, Mufasa had the ‘honour’ of having a ringside seat [albeit, in the heavens], while his son and some guy the old king wouldn’t hesitate to believe was ‘beneath himself and his heir’, made absolute fools of themselves – while also making one of them terribly sick?! To quote a young Simba, from the first movie (while first being introduced to eating bugs), “Eww! Gross!” We feel his pain!!

Then came the ‘Sunrise, Sunset’ scene – during which all three jungle-buddies seem to be swinging and jumping around all over the place – much like kids on a trampoline! (Take us all back to the diving-into-a-pool scene, during which Simba messed up his mane; before the three pals boogied off into more jungle, to the beat of ‘Hakuna Matata’! At least they didn’t look stoned, in that scene!!)

Oh, but now we’re revisiting the famous ‘Simba Confronts Scar’ scene. Very little is seen of this ‘fight to the death’, between lions, of course! Instead, we’re confronted with a performing Timon and Pumbaa – yes, they’re dancing up a storm, during the epic battle! But when dancing doesn’t seem to distract the hyenas enough, a desperate Timon actually gets down on one knee, to make a marriage proposal to Shenzi -- who ultimately refuses! Like, what? Where did that come from?? (Let’s not go there. The idea of it all, is enough to make one very ill!)

In short: The Lion King 1 ½ (or 3) is a bizarre little ‘feature’, with very little in common with the first (and/or even the second) Lion King movie/s franchise.

So, will the REAL Lion King cast stand up, please?

That's it. Tell us what you think!

Thanks in advance

Your mates,

Tracey & Ebony!
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Oiyaki Featured By Owner Edited Dec 1, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
meh, to be honest, I like 1 1/2 better than 2 (the original tops them all but that's not my point)

At least 1 1/2 knew what it was; mindless entertainment that has no real purpose to exist unless you'd wonder about Timon and Pumbaa's origin, And I sort of did to an extent. It didn't need to bullshit itself as well as it's audience.

The commentary sequences never bothered me, since the humor there was really no different than what you'd find from their old Timon & Pumbaa tv show, Heck, that's what it basically felt like. And don't get me wrong, there was stuff I didn't like about it either, namely the continuity mess ups and the flatulence pride rock scene. I can *almost*  forgive that, because there were some moments that made me laugh. Take it for what it is

As for TLK 2: I think what bugged me about Simba's Pride was the way the main villains were handled.They could've literally been a completely new pride and you'd still have the same story. And it's not like they actually take time to explain their origins. Or if they want them to have something to do with Scar, they should've gone full backstory. "I banished you from the pride lands....look, just go along with it okay?" Banished for what? Show, don't tell. 

I guess vagueness can encourage fans as a community to exchange theories, but, I don't know :/

I mean, imagine if Hunchback of Notre Dame 2's main villain was Frollo's crazy cat lady widow who's all like "hey guys, I have a connection with Frollo...and like,I've always been around for some reason and I shall avenge he never gave me those 25 francs that bastard ¬.¬, soooo, yeah" wouldn't you be like "when the hell did this happen?"

and the love chemistry: I didn't feel invested, namely because Kovu's not that interesting. He almost was though, when he was trained to be killer, but then that pretty much vanishes when he saves Kiara. Child indoctrination (the level Zira put him in) doesn't just poof away like that. So his transition from threat to boring doofus wasn't believable.

 2 couldv'e been better, but there were some missed opportunities.
NostalgicChills Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
What you said about TLK 2...THANK YOU. I couldn't agree more with just about everything that you said about it! I'm so sick of people worshipping this movie and gushing over Kovu as a character when he is so boring! I think it's mainly his design that has people going gaga over him, but you're right; he's not interesting at all! And he had great potential to be (THAT is what really annoys me about him!) And i find Kiara to be just as obnoxiously boring as he is, which is why i can't find myself giving a crap about their relationship at all.

I pretty much throw both movies into the same generic catergory, TLK3 has some enjoyable moments, and TLK2 has great nostalgic value to me (and good songs), but they don't even come close to the original, and both somewhat insult it in some way. So, i have a bone to pick with both of them.
The descripton you read was not written by me, while i do agree with most of it; it's mostly her opinion; not mine. :)
TheDreweMaster Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
You put it great why The Lion King 1 1/2 sucked!
I have always been a fan of the first Lion King, and that film took everything what made the first great and trashed them! Also, WHERE would there be a cinema in the African plains?!
Ziragal028 Featured By Owner Jun 7, 2014
Is simba like throwing up when he's older? Lol
boomheart900 Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2014  Student General Artist
im completely aware that tlk 3 was better than SP
annafuru Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
The 3rd movie was the WORST LK MOVIE EVER!
LightningDraco Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2014
I never like 3
mequez18 Featured By Owner Jan 1, 2014
If there would to be like a prequel to the Lion King, that would totally be Othello material, but it seems like Disney is shunning the classics, and 2d animation to the max.
mequez18 Featured By Owner Jan 1, 2014
Let me put it this way. I'm sure you're aware that Lion King's story is based off of Hamlet yes? Much like the Sequel is based off of Romeo and Juliet. Get the Shakespeare vibe??

There's and absurdest play known as Rosencratz and Guildenstern are dead, which basically centers around the two lesser known characters of Hamlet, who are his old student pals. It's basically Hamlet through the perspective of Rosencratz and Guildenstern.

The Lion King 1 1/2 is basically Rosencratz and Guildenstern are dead, nothing is changed in the original Lion King, it's just the movie from Timon and Pumba's perspective.

Regardless I say take it for good fun and comedy, much like the Timon and Pumba television series. I enjoyed the film personally.  I thought it fit well especially with the Shakespearean insight.

Now I agree with you on the Fox and the Hound 2 however.

And Bambi II wasn't that bad I thought.
boomheart900 Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2013  Student General Artist
but is funny ;)
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